[LMB] OT: Seasonal Stuff, (Dec 29) was Happy Winter....

Paula Lieberman paal at filker.org
Mon Dec 29 16:01:58 GMT 2014

Some of the old apple varieties (which trees of keep declining in numbers... 
there had been three or four in Burlington on Winn Street in front of a 
school, then Burlington built a new school building there and cut down the 
old apple trees, which presumable had been the remnants of an orchard a 
street in the vicinity had been named after.  The last apple trees on 
Orchard Hill in Natick got chainsawed years ago to build facilities for 
Mathworks.  Surviving eating apple trees by highways got chainsawed for road 
rework.  Developers cut down all trees.  Etc.  Grrrrr. ) were very 
pest-resistant.  Although, a vestige of what may have been an orchard once 
of an eating apple by the parking lot  of a Burlington strip mall (it's 
against the parking lot for stores which include a Market Basket, there's a 
brook behind it and on the other side of the brook is ithe parking lot for 
H-Mart) bore no fruit this year, I presume the winter moth larvae (or some 
other such insect) ate the pistils of the flower buds (which happened to my 
eating apple trees, and several of the volunteer crab apples.  Two crabs 
were unaffected by it, though).

--Paula Lieberman
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Subject: Re: [LMB] Seasonal Stuff, was Happy Winter....

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Paula Lieberman <paal at filker.org> wrote:

> Unripe apples are green.  Ripe apples can be red, striped with red, green,
> yellow....   but unripe ones, are green.
> I don't think there's much of an export market for apples grown in New
> England.

Well, Macouns and Macintoshes to other parts of the country, maybe... but a
lot of our local varieties don't travel well or have other characteristics
that make them a strictly local product.

I'm a bit of a fiend for apples since I moved to New England and discovered
that there are hundreds of varieties with many different uses and
histories.  Here's a link to a really nice book about them.  It's kind of a
coffee table book with beautiful photos and so forth, but it includes a lot
of information.


And there is a surge in interest in hard ciders, with New England being one
of the few places in the US with more than a few cider apple trees left.
Hard cider was the drink of choice in New England for a couple of
centuries, and there are neglected old trees all over the place. Poverty
Hill Orchards/Farnum Hill Ciders is leading the way in reviving the hard
cider traditions.  If I lived closer, I'd be taking advantage of their
Growler Days, where you show up with a "growler" (a large glass bottle with
a stopper) and they fill it with whatever they have that week.  And they
have started a "Dooryard" line, with each batch being just a little
different. (http://www.povertylaneorchards.com/)

ObBujold:   The Farmers grow their own fruit mostly locally.   I doubt if
> they're getting apples from New Zealand....
> I have my own fruit trees but the insects are pests....

There was an orchard on our land at one point and we still have a few of
the old trees.  Pests are definitely a problem, and like many types of
apples, our trees mostly bear every other year.

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