[LMB] Irony and past leaders, was Gregor

Tony Zbaraschuk tonyz at eskimo.com
Tue Dec 8 00:10:27 GMT 2015


On Mon, December 7, 2015 2:56 pm, Peter Granzeau wrote:
> At 08:25 PM 12/6/2015, Marc Wilson wrote:
>> Yeah, but didn't the Reps and the Dems more or less swap positions in
>> the mid C.20?
>
> Kind of, driven by the switch of the so-called "solid South" away
> from the Democratic Party in the aftermath of Brown v. Board of Education
> and the Civil Rights laws of the 1960s.  At one time, the Democrats could
> count on every single one of the former Confederate states in all national
> elections.  There was a joke about a Southern county counting ballots when
> they found a Republican ballot.  They didn't know what to do with it, so
> they put it aside and continued counting.  Then they found another
> Republican ballot; that settled
> it--the damn fool had obviously voted twice, so they threw them both out.
>
> All those conservative Southern Democrats went to the Republican
> party after the Civil Rights bills.

We should note that the process had started earlier, with the various
things that had been going on during the New Deal and World War II under
FDR's administration.

ObBujold: how far back did the various "progressive" movements in Barrayar
go?  Dorca's time?  Yuri's?  Ezar's?  Sometimes you don't notice things
until they've already grown a long way from small foundations.



Tony Z


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