[LMB] late-series copy-editing/copyediting/copy editing

Paula Lieberman paal at filker.org
Fri Sep 18 23:32:58 BST 2015

Mathematics deals with it with discontinuities, infinitesmals and doing 
thing like 0+ and 0-, which 0- is infinitesmally less than 0, and 0+ is 
infinitesmally greater than 0.

What mattersi are the conventions being -consistent-....

There are reasons for things like clock synchronization!

"Timing and synchronization are always problems"

I don't think it got addressed much in Lois' work, it did in e.g A Tale of 
Two Clocks by James Schmitz, in Fire Lord by Cheryl Franklin, in was it Time 
for the Sars, byHeinlein, etc.

--Paula Lieberman
-----Original Message----- 
From: Marc Wilson
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 01:03 PM
Subject: Re: [LMB] late-series copy-editing/copyediting/copy editing

On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 10:15:57 -0600, Howard Brazee <howard at brazee.net>

>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 9:55 AM, Marc Wilson <marc.wilson at gmx.co.uk> wrote:
>>> The other ambiguity that is being illogically resolved is accepting 
>>> 12:00 AM and 12:00 PM.   Those shouldn’t exist!
>> 12 AM is midnight, 12 PM is midday.  I don't see the problem (though I'm
>> more in favour of 24-hour clocks for any important use).
>12 M is noon , 12 MM is midnight.   M stands for meridian.
>But why are we using latin anyway?
>> Based on the fact that 12:00:01 AM is definitely in the morning, so
>> 12:00:00 is held to be the dividing line, and the same for PM.
>> You could argue the other way, of course, but it's the convention.
>11:59 PM is definitely in the evening, so 12:00:00 is the dividing line, 
>being neither morning nor evening.   You can argue the other way, but it is 
>I avoid ambiguity by never assuming someone else has the same understanding 
>of which date midnight is on, nor whether noon is before noon or after 
>Hey, lets meet at noon afternoon today, and maybe noon before noon 

You are tilting at toy windmills.  Clock time is an arbitrary thing
anyway, we have certain conventions and they work.  It doesn't *matter*
if they're not completely rational.

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