[LMB] OT: Undergarment terminology, was M/F LMB Readership

Paula Lieberman paal at filker.org
Sat Sep 26 13:46:25 BST 2015

Do -males- wear "panties" ??!!!

"Undies" is just as demeaning/dismissive/infantilizing as "panties"  --the 
"ie/ies" ending is infantilizing.

--Paula Lieberman
-----Original Message----- 
From: Gwynne Powell
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 01:22 AM
To: Lois Bujold List
Subject: [LMB] OT: Undergarment terminology, was M/F LMB Readership

> From: mmjustus at mmjustus.com

> I'm not overly fond of the word panties, either.  What's wrong with good,
> old-fashioned underwear? (okay, under*pants*, but only if you insist)
> Diminutives (and names) that end in the "ee" sound tend to grate on me,
> anyway.
> Megaera

There's the problem of what term to use:

'underwear' applies to a variety of clothing items - not specific enough.

'underpants' is blokey.

'knickers' is a bit adolescent and casual.

'underthings' is like underwear - applies to a variety of items. Not 
specific enough.

'pantaloons' is way too oldfashioned and unusable (unless you're doing the
Victorian maid thing...)

'pants' can mean trousers/slacks as well as what goes under them, it can be 

'undies' is a bit informal, and non-specific again.

'briefs' is not applicable to all designs, and a bit blokey.

We could go to specific terms - G-string, Cottontails etc.

But really, the most easily understood, best applicable term is 'panties'.

Gwynne (What do you mean, I've thought about this way too much? I just 
to like really nice underwear. It's fun to wear ordinary, utilitarian 
clothes through
the day, knowing that underneath I'm glorious.)

* Btw, for those Aussie listees who like Cottontails, my aunt heard that 
Bonds is
discontinuing them, so she and my mum are stockpiling. Get in fast before 
corner the market.

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