[LMB] GJ&RQ - Chapter 8, part 1

Eric Oppen ravenclaweric at gmail.com
Mon Aug 22 18:26:59 BST 2016

She might be the "Red Queen" because red hair, such as she has, is not at
all common on Barrayar.  And while she's no Empress, she's not far below
that status (officially or un-) and the next step below an Empress is a
Queen.  (One reason Queen Victoria took the title "Empress of India" was so
as not to be outranked by her own daughter, who was Empress of Germany.)

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Pat Mathews <MATHEWS55 at msn.com> wrote:

> Adaptation to parasites. Like the Kareenburg city government and the
> stupidly greedy contractor? Perfect!
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> This chapter seems to be mostly following the progression of the romance.
> Jole and Cordelia are kept busy by their jobs and hardly get to see each
> other on the anniversary of Aral's death.
> The next weekend, they do fit in a day-trip to Lake Serena, to go sailing,
> and, um, sailing.  Reality doesn't live up to his fantasy, but seems to be
> more fun.
> They dine out together, and notice Cordelia's ImpSec bodyguard -- Cordelia
> points out that even though the bodyguards are nice,  she would sometimes
> like to drop them in an oubliette.  "Why don't I have an oubliette?  I
> could have designed one into the Viceroy's Palace ... easily enough."
> Which leads to Jole's telling her that people call her the Red Queen.
> So, what do people make of the Red Queen name, both for Cordelia and in
> the title?  Jole points out that the bloodthirsty playing card is the Queen
> of Hearts in Alice in Wonderland; "the chess queen [in Through the Looking
> Glass] was known for her sprinting", i.e., having to run as fast as she
> could to stay in the same place.  (But aren't chess pieces usually white or
> black, not red?  Still, it's Lewis Carroll who names her the Red Queen.)
> And Cordelia seems to agree that she has to run as fast as she can to stay
> in the same place.
> But then there's the Red Queen hypothesis (https://en.wikipedia.org/
> wiki/Red_Queen_hypothesis).  I'm sure Lois has talked about this, but I
> can't lay my hands on where.  Does anyone know?  I thought it would be in
> one of the spoiler threads on Goodreads, but I'm not finding it there.
> Red Queen hypothesis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia<https://en.
> wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Queen_hypothesis>
> en.wikipedia.org
> The Red Queen hypothesis, also referred to as Red Queen's, Red Queen's
> race or the Red Queen effect, is an evolutionary hypothesis which proposes
> that organisms must ...
> More about the chapter later.
> Katherine, pondering Red Queens
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