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WILLIAM A WENRICH wawenri at msn.com
Fri Dec 16 18:52:35 GMT 2016

As I've said, I lost 75 pounds and gained half of it back. At my lowest weight I was skinny but still at 25.1 bmi. I think the only surgery that would bring me down to the "recommended" weight would be to cut off one leg. 
My insistence that people are unique and not reducible to a number comes from my own experience. 
One of the reasons that "Greatest Looser" contestants regain most of their weight is that their metabolism changes because of the weight lose. I read an article that stated that they could gain weight at 1200 calories / day. 
BTW, I've changed my desired weight to something I find comfortable. 

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> On Dec 16, 2016, at 10:26 AM, Beatrice Otter <beatrice_otter at haugensgalleri.com> wrote:
> On the topic of losing weight and "shaming."  A few comments and a story.
> First, there is not and never has been a weight-loss system other than surgery that will reliably and safely help people lose weight and keep it off permanently.  There are many that are effective over a relatively short period, but none long-term.  Willpower, diet, and exercise are irrelevant.  Once you have gained weight, unless there is a specific medical problem causing it that can be fixed, you will be roughly that weight for the rest of your life unless you have surgery.  And surgery is dangerous, even relatively "safe" ones.
> Second, while high weight does correlate closely with several health problems, it is not in /itself/ unhealthy.  There has never been any evidence to suggest that it is.  The reason the American Medical Association lists obesity as a disease is so that doctors can bill insurance companies for dieting advice.
> Third, there are actually quite a number of studies that indicate that the "normal, healthy" weight (i.e. the one society approves of and that doctors nag you to get to) is actually not as healthy as weighing a bit more--the people who live longest with the fewest health problems are not the ones who are skinny but the ones who are chunky and overweight.  This has actually been studied quite a lot, because lots of doctors read such studies and go "that can't be right, I'll prove it!" and do their own study, only to get the same results.  But I read an interview with a doctor who had just published a study concluding that "overweight" people were healthier that "normal weight" people.  The reporter asked her if she was going to change her recommendations of what a healthy weight was to fit the evidence she had uncovered.  "No," she said. The 
> Our society treats being overweight as a moral problem, proof that you are a lazy slob.  And we use the idea that fat people are unhealthy as an excuse to be shitty to them while still claiming the moral high ground--after all, you're trying to HELP them by inspiring them to lose weight so they can be healthier!  And if they can't do it, it's their own fault for being a lazy slob, 

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