[LMB] Which is more painful Memory vice Komarr

Pat Mathews MATHEWS55 at msn.com
Mon Nov 7 16:56:43 GMT 2016

And when you throw in a notable kyphosis - dowager's hump, humpback - to boot, no, that has to be measured individually. And take it from me, it does affect even how your skirts hang. (NOT something Miles has to worry about. (Though if he had been Count VorMacDonald....) Up past your knees in back, down past your shoetops in front. Ugh.

From: lois-bujold-bounces at lists.herald.co.uk <lois-bujold-bounces at lists.herald.co.uk> on behalf of Beatrice Otter <beatrice_otter at haugensgalleri.com>
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Subject: Re: [LMB] Which is more painful Memory vice Komarr

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> On Sat, 5 Nov 2016, at 23:23, Walter Bushell wrote:>> Reading the beginning of _Memory_ or _Komarr_?
>> Also the Miles' suit cut to order should not have been that expensive.
>> Put the measurements
>> into the tailor machine and they should pop out.

> On Nov 5, 2016, at 7:55 PM, M R Dolbear <m.dolbear at lineone.net> wrote:
> Depends. The software designers will have made assumptions and Miles may
> not be comfortable with the results.
> Would the tailor machine give a good result for a Quaddie ? Someone with
> only one arm ?
> And Miles may have seen early attempts by the Dendarri uniform tailor
> machine to fit Taura.
> The software may not be well tested for extremes.
From: Walter Bushell <proto at panix.com>:
They managed to fit Taura on the ship out from Jackson's Hole. I doubt
they had a highly trained expert fitter on the crew of a fast warship.

On a planet much more should be possible.

Beatrice Otter:Taura's shape is a standard female model, just scaled up a bit.  If a machine can alter the patterns it makes to accommodate the differences between a chesty woman and a woman with fewer curves, it should be able to quite easily scale things up for a tall, solid woman.  As someone who has worked in a costume shop designing and modifying patterns to fit a wide variety of body types, I can assure you it's easier to scale a pattern up for a taller person than modify something for a woman whose curves don't fit the "standard" form the pattern was originally designed for.  Particularly if it's a more elaborate design that you want to look right and not out of proportion.  (The uniform is not a particularly complex design, and thus easy to alter.)
And even if you can't get it quite right, if you make it slightly too big you can take it in quite easily--with packing tape, if you don't know how to sew.  That would be sufficient until they got to a planet with a better program or a tailor.
This doesn't mean that same program could handle something like a quaddie or other REALLY nonstandard shape person. It would probably need a completely new additional software to do so.
Beatrice Otter.
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