[LMB] Gregor: The beginning

Walter Bushell proto at panix.com
Sat Jan 14 18:40:10 GMT 2017


Who is Seal? Don’t remember anyone by that name. I would have remembered Vorseal, for sure.

> On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:11 AM, WILLIAM A WENRICH <wawenri at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> Seal volunteered for the assignation but that would have left the war party and the corrupt ministers in charge. Ezar should have been working on a solution for ten years or more, before he became so sick and was under time constraints. 
> Serg should have been disposed of as soon as Gregor was born.  
> 
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>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 8:36 AM, Gwynne Powell <gwynnepowell at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Damien Sullivan <phoenix at mindstalk.net>
>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 09:28:53PM -0500, Corrina Lawson wrote:
>>> Now, if you want to blame Aral for Serg's death, Aral certainly blamed
>>> himself. But Serg was going, one way or another, so while Aral is part of
>>> the plot, the greatest share of the blame lays with Ezar.
>> 
>> Damien:
>> Well, once he knew about the plot, Aral could have warned Serg or
>> others.  He is complicit in allowing a dummy war and invasion to
>> proceed, thinking it was the least bad option.
>> 
>> Gwynne:
>> Warning Serg and keeping him alive wasn't a great idea; Ezar's reasoning that Serg and
>> his cabal would be a disaster for Barrayar was true. His solution, however, wasn't the
>> best response to the problem. I know it would probably have caused some unrest, but
>> I think a nice neat assassination would have been the best way to go - they could go a
>> bit artistic and fake an accident, which wouldn't convince anyone but it'd show respect
>> for tradition. There would probably have been some housecleaning to do afterwards, but
>> even so the death toll would have been way lower than attacking Escobar. Aral could have
>> killed Serg, but he'd need to take Ges out as well, for neatness and to improve the species.
>> 
>> It'd be easy enough for Aral to get close to Serg; all he'd have to do would be to fall back
>> into Ges's orbit. Then wait for the next drunken orgy and take them both out - maybe he
>> could make it look like they'd got drunk and attacked each other? That might even work,
>> or at least enough people would pretend to believe it. Otherwise Aral would be the last
>> casualty, chained to a post as a traitor.
>> 
>> But that wouldn't dispose of the War Party. Ezar was very focussed on Barrayar, and the
>> aftermath of the defeat allowed him to wipe out a lot of political problems, the whole thing
>> was carefully choreographed, with the riots after the defeat being aimed at those groups
>> he wanted to wipe out to make things easier for Gregor, or at least for Gregor's regent.
>> He didn't just throw away all those deaths, they were used as ammunition against the War
>> Party and others. And Aral, the supreme strategist, would realise that - bitter as it was to
>> acknowledge it. (But I'm still rather surprised that he didn't just take Serg out personally.)
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