[LMB] OT: technological novels & subversion

baur baur baur at chello.at
Fri Jun 15 05:18:02 BST 2018

you will have niticed that i did not talk about the chinese (on purpose)

but despite literally multiple thousands of archeological digs of greek and roman sites (*) with millions of objects found - often in VERY good shape - (and multiple roman book authors writing eloquently and exhaustively on subjects like farming and construction work) we have never found a wheelbarrow (or got a good description)

 so i must assume that while there might have been something that looked like a wheelbarrow if you squinted and looked away from it, it was not in widespread use  (only an oddity here and there - like the wheeled toys in ancient middle america)

(*) and i know places where you cannot even dig a hole for a new rosebush in your garden without turning up potshards (or having a archeologist peering interestedly over your shoulder)



>     Damien Sullivan <phoenix at mindstalk.net> hat am 14. Juni 2018 um 22:07 geschrieben:
>     On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 06:53:36AM +0200, baur baur wrote:
>         > > 
> >         just like the greek and romans used wheelbarrows ..?
> > 
> >         oh, wait .. they did not .. 8)
> > 
> >         the mystery of the wheelbarrow is that it is so simple, but got invented only late
> > 
> >     > 
>     China had wheelbarrows by the second century AD as shown in tomb murals
>     and reliefs, and written records suggest even earlier use. There are
>     400 BC Greek lists which include "one-wheeler", and there's a later
>     Latin word for such as well.
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheelbarrow
>     -xx- Damien X-)
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