[LMB] Is Barr a rapist? or I'm misunderstanding beguilement?

Federico Bergstein almirantenaismith at gmail.com
Mon Aug 5 13:52:24 BST 2019

I am not sure those things can be considered "paying" for it, or to say it
in another way, we *know* he paid for it, and he will never do it again and
he's very ashamed.
But we *know* those things because we are inside his head. If we were
people *inside* the story, without knowing what he feels and thinks, we
would be very wary of him and perhaps even think him as an unpunished

On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 3:40 AM Gwynne Powell <gwynnepowell at hotmail.com>

> From: Federico Bergstein <almirantenaismith at gmail.com>
> A problem with that is that Barr never really paid for his crime, (I think,
> perhaps the voyage to the sea could be considered punishment? but not
> enough)
> I think that if Barr was in my life I would want him far away.
> Gwynne: Barr does pay, but not in ways we'd use in this world. Bluebell
> asks
> him to stay away, so he accepts that he'll most likely never know his
> child. He
> organises his time to pay secret visits to monitor her, but his family
> don't know
> about his child, he can't claim her or share information about her. It
> condemns
> him to a rather lonely vigil, and an ongoing sense of loss.
> Then when she throws to the Lakewalker side, he has to take
> responsibility, he
> has so many decisions to make, the embarrassment and humiliation of
> everyone knowing about his mistake (one more in a litany they won't let him
> forget, just at a time  when he thought he'd proved that he'd outgrown his
> earlier mistakes.)
> And above all he has so many worries about making the right decisions for
> this amazing person, and the frustration and worry about her future,
> getting
> her accepted, and all of it. And this hits him in one blow, without time to
> plan or practice or learn.
> Barr is also late to find a partner, for a patroller. His family have been
> pressuring him for some years about it. Maybe that seed of guilt and loss
> is
> holding him back from making other emotional commitments (he finds a
> partner pretty quickly after Lily goes public.)
> So Barr pays in loss, and stress, and shame. He pays by having his life
> subtly
> twisted in ways he can't explain to others. He pays by doing what Bell
> wants,
> not what he'd like to do.
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