[LMB] Prejudice on Barrayar
lorelei.kaena at gmail.com
Wed Aug 7 18:29:59 BST 2019
Barrayar got there, but I doubt it got there quickly.
Remember how long ago this series was started, and how differently we understand (due to technological advancements) archeology and what finds we already have.
Herself hasn’t written much about the beginnings of the colony, but I very much doubt they went straight to infanticide and other atrocities (the expectation that the newly disabled will kill themselves, or be killed or hidden). Sure, it’s been done in some cultures, but given the known mix we have, it should have taken time to lose the taboo and build the ritual.
> On 7 Aug 2019, at 12:17, Gwynne Powell <gwynnepowell at hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: Lorelei Kaena <lorelei.kaena at gmail.com>
> Everyone would have been needed to help do anything. Do you know how much time it takes to make cloth?
> That?s the answer to some of your questions about children, the elderly, and disabled. Cloth production from raw fiber is time consuming but nearly everyone can do each step.
> Then there?s watching the kids. Why have an able-bodied woman in the house who can be working a field when a elderly or disabled person or people can ride herd on the kids? That?s why the living in family groups. It?s simple social dynamics.
> They?ve found disabled, healed Neanderthals, who had obviously lived with their conditions but were useless to the group. We aren?t baseline savages.
> Gwynne: As I said on a previous post, that's true. But not relevant.
> People make decisions in a panic, for personal rather than long-term
> reasons, and do whatever they think is right at the time.
> SOME of the injured/disabled could do those jobs. And probably did.
> But some had a very long healing time, or high medical needs, and
> the resources to do that simply weren't there. And over time it became
> accepted that they just couldn't be supported, because it's less
> shattering to live with a code than to have to make each decision
> Kou notes that someone with his injuries would be expected to commit
> suicide. And that's probably from a long tradition. To help your family,
> you'd be expected to do what had to be done. And isolated events became
> the custom, long after there was need for it.
> And we have to factor in that many injuries and conditions were due to
> radiation, or to genetically-damaging native flora. So that we're talking
> about a large percentage of the population, and pretty severe conditions.
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