[LMB] Lois-Bujold Digest, Vol 171, Issue 35

Eric Oppen ravenclaweric at gmail.com
Thu Aug 8 19:23:00 BST 2019


They used to do a "Sheep to Shawl" thing at the Lilies War, which my local
SCA kingdom puts on every year.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 1:17 PM Kevin Kennedy <kevink45 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> The Indiana State Fair (running now) has a similar contest, Sheep to
> Shawl. A team of 4 has a loom. already strung, and x amount of clean raw
> wool. They card the wool, spin it, and weave a shawl. There are usually 4-5
> teams competing. They start at 8am and the first shawl might finish around
> 1. They're then auctioned off for a fundraiser.
>
>
>
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> lois-bujold-bounces at lists.herald.co.uk> on behalf of Jason Long <
> sturmvogel66 at gmail.com>
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> To: Discussion of the works of Lois McMaster Bujold. <
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> Subject: Re: [LMB] Lois-Bujold Digest, Vol 171, Issue 35
>
> Thanks for taking the time to look up the links for me.
>
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 11:22 AM Lorelei Kaena <lorelei.kaena at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Keep in mind I do this as a hobby. The New York Sheep & Wool has a
> ‘Fleece
> > to Sweater’ (knitting, not weaving, which is really the topic here) in a
> > few hours. But that’s still 1lb of raw wool to be combed or carded
> > (depending on breed) after its been skirted (all the dirtiest stuff
> > carefully picked or cut out, we’ll leave the washing out, they’d have
> > wanted the lanolin).
> > https://youtu.be/3U3fWNJLVyw
> [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3U3fWNJLVyw/hqdefault.jpg]<
> https://youtu.be/3U3fWNJLVyw>
> Ask The Woolery: Carding and Combing<https://youtu.be/3U3fWNJLVyw>
> youtu.be
> In this "Ask the Woolery" series we explore the differences between
> carding and combing fibers for hand spinning.
>
>
> >
> > Then you drop or wheel spin the fiber. For weaving, you need it plied and
> > pretty fine (look at your clothes, at each thread—they’re made up of
> > several ‘plies’). (Vid shows plying first, then some awesome spinning
> with
> > manual color changes. Imagine when this was all done with spindles.)
> > https://youtu.be/B0bM8Qn7WJE
> >
> > So then you transfer to holding bobbins until you have enough to warp
> > whatever loom you’ve managed to build (or tablet weave), pray you got the
> > weights and yarn right, and (I’ve done this but not anymore, I have EDS
> and
> > it’s hell on the shoulders):
> > https://youtu.be/rOJcdmBhjBE
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Turlach
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 8 Aug 2019, at 10:49, Jason Long <sturmvogel66 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > How cool! What would be your estimate of the time required to make a
> > shirt
> > > or dress from start to finish? And do you find it more efficient to
> > > organize your workflow in stages (all the fiber processing in one
> stage,
> > > spinning thread in another, etc.) or to do it more-or-less in one
> > > continuous process?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 9:04 AM Lorelei Kaena <lorelei.kaena at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> And the biggest, *make cloth*. I actually do it from raw fiber, to
> save
> > >> money and occupy time, and for any amount you’re going to weave you’re
> > >> going to need everyone you can get to be a decent spinner.
> > >>
> > >> You scrape skins with the knapped rocks, by the way, then soak them in
> > >> vats of urine. Much better than chewing (but gets the enzymes).
> > >>
> > >> Turlach
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On 8 Aug 2019, at 07:35, Marc Wilson <marc.wilson at gmx.co.uk> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 09:42:36 -0400, Lorelei Kaena
> > >>> <lorelei.kaena at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Everyone would have been needed to help do anything. Do you know how
> > >> much time it takes to make cloth?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> That’s the answer to some of your questions about children, the
> > >> elderly, and disabled. Cloth production from raw fiber is time
> consuming
> > >> but nearly everyone can do each step.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Then there’s watching the kids. Why have an able-bodied woman in the
> > >> house who can be working a field when a elderly or disabled person or
> > >> people can ride herd on the kids? That’s why the living in family
> > groups.
> > >> It’s simple social dynamics.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> They’ve found disabled, healed Neanderthals, who had obviously lived
> > >> with their conditions but were useless to the group. We aren’t
> baseline
> > >> savages.
> > >>>
> > >>> Except not "useless", as you detailed in your previous paragraphs.
> OK,
> > >>> they couldn't hunt, and perhaps even gather, but they could chew
> skins,
> > >>> knap flint, watch kids (and pots).
> > >>>>
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> > >> William Gibson
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