[LMB] OT: cave diving

Marc Wilson marc.wilson at gmx.co.uk
Tue Aug 20 21:02:05 BST 2019

On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 05:46:07 -0400, anmar Caver <anmar.mirza at gmail.com>

>On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 2:26 AM A. Marina Fournier <saffronrose at me.com>
>> I always think of Anmar, our expert on caves and cave diving, when I set
>> articles like this.
>> https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/08/19/752248582/cave-diver-risks-all-to-explore-places-where-nobody-has-ever-been
> One aspect of her article I find particularly true: most cave divers I
>know are very risk-averse. You don't last long in a field with such small
>margin for error unless you are methodical and cautious.
>People always assume that I enjoy adrenaline dumps, but I don't, I hate
>them and avoid them whenever I can. In my world, adrenaline dump means
>something has gone very wrong.*
>Caving itself, when following the basic safety guidelines, is very safe.
>The real danger comes from either ignoring or short circuiting those
>guidelines, or the fact that when something does go wrong you can't easily
>get help so you have to be wildly self-sufficient.
>ObBujold: I think that younger Miles would make a terrible cave diver. Not
>because he couldn't learn how to do it, but because his risk assessment
>ability is wildly skewed as is his instinctive reactions.He's best with
>people situations. Ivan, OTOH, would make a great cave diver as he's very

Similarly, people who are literally fearless are a massive liability in
the mountains.
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