[LMB] OT: Windows 10 has been particularly prolific this week.

Harvey Fishman fishman at panix.com
Tue Dec 10 00:43:00 GMT 2019

My problems have been limited to tossing of legacy software such as the 
games suite and the wiping of cookies where several sites that I 
regularly use store their  passwords. These things are annoying but 
hardly game changers. Thankfully it only takes a minute or so to 
reinstall or to reenter. We'll see if we have to play again tomorrow.


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>At 11:11 AM 12/9/2019 Marc Wilson wrote:
>>On Sat, 7 Dec 2019 11:38:35 -0700, Zan Lynx <zlynx at acm.org> wrote:
>> >Windows 10 updates have never removed anything I've needed to use.
>>I've had an update disable my networking completely. I had to revert it and disable that "feature" update for 365 days.
>Network adapter and printer drivers are the most common issues with Windows 10 feature updates in my experience. (The % of users involved is relatively small for any given update, but a small percentage can still be a huge number of individuals.) The fix is generally to find the correct driver and install it. That's easier said then done for most people when they can't get connected to the internet because their network adapter is non-fuctional, but it generally isn't hard to do apart from that.
>> >The worst I've seen it do to other people is break the antivirus software that they shouldn't have been using anyway.
>>Harsh. MS have dramatically improved their AV offering, but it's not foolproof.
>In my experience, up-to-date AV software rarely breaks during Windows updates. Old, out-of-date AV software is problematic, and for more reasons than just getting broken by updates. There were significant problems with some current AV software after one of the relatively recent feature updates, but the problems mostly happened to people who intentionally requested the update rather than people for whom it got installed automatically. None of my clients contacted me about any problems of that sort.
>> >Any AV software that thinks it knows how Windows works better than Microsoft does is mistaken, wrong, and *should be* disabled.
>Who's claiming that AV software companies know more than MS about how Windows works? I haven't heard any claims of that sort. They may well know more about how malicious software works and how to stop it though.
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