[LMB] Driving while Black

Eric Oppen ravenclaweric at gmail.com
Tue Dec 10 03:29:46 GMT 2019

People can accuse anybody of anything.   And WHAT statistics would you
accept?  Anything I could come up with, you could easily blow off or
dismiss or pooh-pooh.

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 9:28 PM Harvey Fishman <fishman at panix.com> wrote:

> Well just today in New York City a senior officer of the MTA Transit
> Police was accused of  ordering the officers in his command to  hassle
> and arrest blacks and Latinos for fare evasion and to allow whites and
> Chinese much greater leeway. Nothing has been proven but the accusation
> was made.
> Harvey
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> Subject: [LMB] Driving while Black
> >Got any stats to show tha blacks disproportionately do this, especially
> after normalizing for class and geography? Otherwise, it begins to sound
> like a stereotype, at best, and possibly prejudice.
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> >Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 18:49:57 -0600
> >From: Eric Oppen <ravenclaweric at gmail.com>
> >Subject: Re: [LMB] OT: Racial disparities in policing
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> >Driving a car with visible equipment violations also draws the attention
> of
> >the police, and many poor and minority people do that.
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