[LMB] We've been discussing gene engineering on people...

Matthew George matt.msg at gmail.com
Mon Oct 14 22:59:04 BST 2019

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 4:39 PM Joel Polowin <jpolowin at hotmail.com> wrote:

> YES, it's a real condition.

You don't understand what etiology is, and you're defending what isn't
under attack.  Your anecdotal (ha!) argument misses the point.  Doctors
used to argue that differential response to treatment made it possible to
determine which children definitely had ADD/ADHD and which did not.  Then
studies showed that perfectly normal children had identical responses to
the various drugs as ones with the diagnoses - increased focus and
perservation mixed with greater tolerance for lack of input primarily - but
those changes were not perceived are beneficial in the normal group, and as
a godsend with the problem children.  So the claims that the effects of the
drugs made a distinction possible were dropped.  Claims of medical efficacy
tend to metaphorically be headlines, while acknowledgements of error tend
to be buried on the back pages.

> It can't be hard-and-fast measured with a diagnostic instrument.  That
> doesn't mean it can't be diagnosed.

Anything can be diagnosed.  It requires only agreement as to names and
categories.  Whether those categories correspond to reality is the
question, Mr. Polowin.

> This is, in fact, not the case.

You don't understand what a 'genetic condition' is, either.

T1D may not be *solely* genetic, but genetics plays a strong role.

There are no diseases - of any kind - where genetics do not play a strong


Matt G.

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