[LMB] Citizenship? - Oaths and Arde

Howard Brazee howard at brazee.net
Fri Dec 3 13:20:25 GMT 2021

> On Dec 2, 2021, at 11:51 PM, Matija Grabnar via Lois-Bujold <lois-bujold at lists.herald.co.uk> wrote:
> On 03/12/2021 04:32, Howard Brazee wrote:
>> Passport citizenship is dependent upon the land people are born in.   But Barrayar’s loyalty is to the lords.
> Not always. US, and other immigrant built countries grant citizenship to anyone born there, but that was not always/everywhere the norm. I remember reading that in Germany children of guest workers could not get citizenship.
> I just checked, and it says that in Germany, for a child to gain citizenship, one of the parents has to be a German citizen, or a legal resident of Germany for eight years or more. I think the "legal resident" part is new, I seem to recall that it used to be just "one of the parents was a citizen”.

Different levels of citizenship.   Legal residents still need passports somehow.

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