[LMB] OT: Sense of the list

WILLIAM A WENRICH wawenri at msn.com
Thu Dec 9 14:31:15 GMT 2021


I am not referring to an experiment. I am talking about what happened to my son Brian. It may have been based on an experiment or a teacher following something that she read. I don’t remember all of the details.
Personally, I think such tactics in a classroom is child abuse. It doesn’t make any difference whether the teacher calls out “blue eyed blonds” or people with “slanted eyes” or people with dark skin, it’s wrong.

William A Wenrich

  *   A sinner dependent on God’s grace.

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From: Lois-Bujold <lois-bujold-bounces at lists.herald.co.uk> on behalf of Helen Fenton <hifenton at internode.on.net>
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Subject: Re: [LMB] OT: Sense of the list

I agree that William is referring to the Jane Elliot experiment not something recent. I have been a member of the list for a very long time  and I cannot remember raising this issue

Kind Regards,
Helen Fenton

> On 9 Dec 2021, at 11:24 pm, Raymond Collins <rcrcoll6 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Are you talking about Jane Elliot (née Jennison) who showed to her third
> grade students, first hand, how being a targeted as inferior because of
> their skin, hair and eye color. And
> who showed how irrational it was to judge people how they looked like?
> I'd like to point on the documentary I watched, a long time ago, that she
> lectured  her students on why it's bad to judge people on what they looked
> like.
> Her approach was to eradicate racism through how people judged each other
> based on appearance. If anyone on the list had said anything so ugly without the whole list going berserk
>
>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 2:03 AM Alex Kwan <litalex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I don’t think the list has existed for that long? Or do you mean you
>> complained about it now?
>>
>> And I highly doubt anyone on this list would have said the things you
>> mentioned.
>>
>> little Alex
>>
>>>> On Dec 9, 2021, at 01:11, WILLIAM A WENRICH <wawenri at msn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 35 years ago my son's 4th grade teacher told her class that everyone
>> knew that people with blue eyes and blond hair were mentally deficient. My
>> son was the only person in class with blue eyes and blond hair. He is also
>> slightly dyslexic and has ADD. When I complained about it on the list, I
>> was told that if it hurt him, good. Now he will know what it feels like.
>>>
>>> Is this still the sentiment of the list or was it just a couple of
>> people?
>>>
>>>
>>> William A Wenrich
>>> A sinner utterly dependent on the grace of God.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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