[LMB] OT: IQ Tests

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Thu Jul 1 12:10:18 BST 2021


Whereas now they have robots with inbuilt (learned) bias..

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On Tuesday, June 29th, 2021 at 14:53, WILLIAM A WENRICH <wawenri at msn.com> wrote:

> Under the theory of disparate impact, businesses are not allowed to use any test that does not have the same result for every group. That is one of the reasons why, if a business needed to hire people who were literate and numerate, they would require a college degree, any college degree. A high school diploma no longer was enough.
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> High schools are judged by what percentage of the students graduate, not by how much they know.
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> Christian, husband, father, granddaddy, son, American. Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me.
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> William A Wenrich
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> From: Lois-Bujold lois-bujold-bounces at lists.herald.co.uk on behalf of Gwynne Powell gwynnepowell at hotmail.com
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 6:09:36 AM
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> Subject: [LMB] OT: IQ Tests
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> From: WILLIAM A WENRICH wawenri at msn.com
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> I?be seen a lot of things on the media about IQ tests that I find ridiculous.
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> Two characters take the test and one scores two points higher and must now be considered the smarter of the two.
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> A person scores high and changes their personality, actions, and opinions on everything.
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> One test is considered a definitive measure of whatever it is that IQ tests are supposed to measure.
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> Personally I have taken at least ten IQ tests and have a full standard deviation between my lowest and highest test.
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> Christian, husband, father, granddaddy, son, American. Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me.
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> William A Wenrich
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> Gwynne: I don't know if it's still in fashion, but a while ago some schools were
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> using the 'Seven kinds of intelligence' theory. IQ tests basically measure literacy
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> and some maths, and memory (as well as whether or not the person has the
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> same social background as the person who set the test.) Plus the coping skills to
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> do tests and not get flustered.
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> But there's other kinds of smarts: physical, social, musical, artistic and so on.
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> A brilliant mechanic may not score highly on the IQ test, but the world needs
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> brilliant mechanics. They weren't using IQ tests when I was working, there was
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> a collection of tests that measured verbal skills, literacy, memory and a few
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> other things, and the importance was in the interpretation, and the variation
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> between the levels in each test. Reducing each child to a single number wasn't
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> useful at all, it doesn't really tell much about the child. And so often, for various
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> reasons, it's wrong.
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> But reducing someone to a single number is such a nice, neat, easy way to deal
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> with them. Which is always popular.
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