[LMB] Religion and one-up-manship

Eric Oppen ravenclaweric at gmail.com
Sun Jul 18 03:16:21 BST 2021

One reason for the existence of such things was that knowing and using the
true name of a supernatural entity gave a mortal power over that entity.
Or that was what people believed.

Kind of like how our word "bear" is not the original Indo-European word for
this animal.  It derives from "brown one," AIUI, and was used as a
substitute for the real word because saying the real word might attract the
creature's hungry attention.  Kind of like "Speak of the Devil, and he will
appear," or in Chinese, "Shuo dao Cao Cao, Cao Cao jiou dao."

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 5:35 PM Harvey Fishman <fishman at panix.com> wrote:

> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Matthew George" <matt.msg at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of the works of Lois McMaster Bujold."
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> Subject: Re: [LMB] Religion and one-up-manship
> >On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 9:39 AM Harvey Fishman <fishman at panix.com> wrote:
> >
> >>  We already substitute a euphemism for the Name of the Lord, Adonai.
> >
> >
> >No, 'Adonai'* means *"Lord" or "Lord of Hosts".  It's a title, not a name
> >proper.  If it's to be considered a name, then "Lord" must be considered a
> >name - and by your reasoning it must be adjusted, probably to L-rd.
> >
> >Ten seconds of Net searching is enough to demonstrate this.
> >
> >Matt G.
> AAARRRGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is a EUPHEMISM that we say in the place of the
> name of the Lord; NOT a name. Go look up euphemism in a
> dictionary!!!!!!!!
> Harvey
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