[LMB] OT: unicyclos and wheelbarrows

Markus Baur baur at chello.at
Sun Jul 25 08:22:13 BST 2021

Am 25.07.2021 um 03:37 schrieb Raymond Collins:
> I looked up wheelbarrows on Wikipedia which says the first evidence of the
> earliest wheelbarrow was a mural found in the tomb from the Han Dynasty. It
> is dated at 118AD.. there may have been a device referred to as a
> hyperteria monoklklou which was on two lists of building materials for
> temple of Eeusis circa 406~407BC and 407~408BC. Other then that there is no
> evidence. On the other hand there was no evidence of a hzndcranked
> calculating device like the Antikythera mechanism until it was discovered
> by sponge divers.

yes in regards to the antikythera meachnism ..


how large would be the potential market for such a mechanism in the 
antique world compared to the potential market for wheelbarrows? low 
hundreds at best for the first one vs. multiple thousands at least for 
the second (every farm and building site would have used wheelbarrows)

also - what is the price of a antikythera compared to a wheelbarrow? the 
first needs expensive materials and specialist craftsmen .. the second 
can be replicated by every town and village cartwright (and probably 
even by anyone else who has some basic tools and is handy)

that ubiquity would imho strongly argue that we would see some 
evidence(*) for wheelbarrows, but not for antikytheras

(*) multiple kinds of evidence .. not only in actual finds, but also in 
literature (all those roman tracts about proper farming, architecture or 
fortification and siegecraft) and art (there a lots of mural and 
mosaices that show scenes of agriculture and industry (mostly in the 
background, but sometimes even as subject)



> On Sat, Jul 24, 2021, 7:58 PM Batwrangler <batwrangler at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Unicyclos could have been the name of the official dog? ;)
>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2021, 6:06 PM B Van Look <vanlook19 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 8:01 AM Markus Baur via Lois-Bujold
>>> <lois-bujold at lists.herald.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> but since there was only one (1) in the inventory, its unlikely its a
>>>> wheelbarrow - a large building site and a single wheelbarrow makes no
>>>> real sense ..
>>> It could be one of the large "walking cranes" with the singular walking
>>> wheel
>>> BJ
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