[LMB] [OT] Atlantic crossings, was Centrifugal gravity, was Re: Cordelia's College sport

Raymond Collins rcrcoll6 at gmail.com
Wed Jun 30 02:24:03 BST 2021


In Roman times transcendentalism from human to becoming a god was quite
political. Many of the emperors became gods to establish their authority
through Devine hood. I'm uncertain if Caligula got demoted after he was
killed.

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 8:15 PM Eric Oppen <ravenclaweric at gmail.com> wrote:

> In Japanese, they refer to the Christian god as "Kami-sama" (Lord Kami)
> AIUI.  (Any Japanese mavens present are invited to correct me on this
> point; Japan was not my major focus when I was studying these things.)
>
> However, "kami" also refers to many other beings---what the Greeks would
> have called nymphs, oreads, and other nature spirits, as well as other
> gods.  Combined, it means "divine" or "holy," as in "kamikaze" which means
> "divine wind."
>
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 3:35 PM Howard Brazee <howard at brazee.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 29, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Eric Oppen <ravenclaweric at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I've had to explain to people that in classical antiquity, the line
> > between
> > > "man" and "god" wasn't as big and black as it is in Abrahamic
> monotheism.
> > > Quite a few Greeks claimed divine ancestry (generally many generations
> > > back) and there were cases in mythology and otherwise of men becoming
> > gods,
> > > or at least demigods.  Heracles, Romulus, and the successful pagan
> Roman
> > > emperors come to mind in this context.
> >
> > Even in the Old Testament, the concept of a personal god who was more
> > powerful and more personal than the other gods out there is different
> from
> > what most modern believers have.
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