[LMB] OT: Chrome crud

Matija Grabnar lmb at matija.com
Wed Jun 30 07:37:15 BST 2021

On 29/06/2021 22:14, WILLIAM A WENRICH wrote:
>   Anti-Microsoft web designers deliberately changed their sites to not be able to run the current version from Microsoft.

You have no idea what you're talking about. They weren't anti-microsoft 
designers. Microsoft Internet Explorer was notorious because not only it 
broke all web standards (what a given HTML code will end up looking 
like). Not only that, but it broke the standards *in a different way* 
with every version.

So a designer would write HTML code for the site. Once for IE6. Once for 
IE7. Once for IE8. Once for IE9. (and in some cases, for sub-versions of 

And once for the browsers that respected standards, so a single version 
worked for Safari, Opera, Firefox and Chrome. Not for a specific version 
of those, but for all versions (also importantly, the versions of Opera, 
Firefox and Chrome were not tied to a specific version of Windows, so if 
it had a bug in rendering a particular piece of HTML, it could be easily 

You know what happened because of that? Business owners started counting 
how many customers came to their site with a given browser version, and 
telling their web designers: "You can stop supporting <browser/version>, 
because only X% of customers is using that version, and they don't 
generate enough profit to pay the extra time you spend supporting them".

Microsoft felt that they were so big that, eventually, their way of 
doing things would become a de-facto standard. And for a time, it almost 
worked. But, because their way differed from one version of IE to the 
next, they fractured the market, and that gave upstarts a foothold. And 
people started noticing that upstarts were actually better. And 
businesses realized that they could speed up their website redesign by 
months by simply saying "If your browser is IE version X or older, 
download a free version of Firefox/Opera/Chrome"

Not anti-Microsoft. Just, you know, pro-profit.

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