On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 2:05 AM Eric Oppen <ravenclaweric at gmail.com> wrote: > Given Bothari's mental problems, I'd say he did much better than could be > expected. > Evaluating him as a person, that' a relevant observation. Evaluating him as a dad, it doesn't actually help much. His kid had to deal with him as-is. Sylvia