[LMB] [LMB ]Start of morals? was Writers and moral problems

David Bowen dmb0317 at gmail.com
Wed Sep 1 00:26:22 BST 2021


Ladies and gentlemen,

   According to my records this thread started on August 24, and hence is
over the list's OT: thread guidelines. Please comply with list rules and
drop it.

David Bowen

On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 3:41 PM Matthew George <matt.msg at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 9:29 AM Matija Grabnar via Lois-Bujold <
> lois-bujold at lists.herald.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Oh, giggle. I should've realized you're one of them "it's all inherited"
> > racist dog whistlers.
> >
>
> If you don't want people to think you're a fool, Grabnar, you should cease
> acting like one.  If you wanted to critique that program, you should have
> read about the context it was made in and the effect it had on Norwegian
> society.
>
>
> > Go read, instead, something like https://www.nature.com/articles/ng.3285
> > which concludes that across all the traits they tracked, heritability is
> > 49%, for intelligence, specifically, genetic variance accounts for only
> > 57% of the variability - the rest is up to other factors like
> > environment, nutrition, etc.
> >
>
> What matters is that the category "environment" is extremely broad, and is
> used to obscure the degree to which specific parts of the environment
> affect heritability.  Once basic nutrition and minimal intellectual
> stimulation are met, parental influence on intelligence - to choose a
> particularly relevant example - is 0%.  Nada.  Zip.  Nothing.  You can't
> manipulate the degree to which children are raised 'intellectually' and
> have any effect on their IQs.  Smart parents tend to have smart children
> and dumb parents tend to have dumb children =because of their transmitted
> genes=, not because of any cultural transmission.
>
> Although there are many features of disease, doctors have long noted that
> the most effective way to avoid disease is to choose your parents
> carefully.  Your =biological= parents.
>
> The greatest social influence on children is their peers, not their
> parents.  Parents have remarkably little effect on how children turn out,
> especially once abusive physical and emotional environments are excluded.
> As in adoptive parenting.
>
> Matt G.
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