[LMB] OT: The End of Slavery

Matthew George matt.msg at gmail.com
Wed Sep 1 02:19:23 BST 2021


On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 8:51 PM brazee <howard at brazee.net> wrote:

>
> I don’t agree with him.   But my question is why LDS is excluded (Mormons
> claim to be Christian).


 To start with, Mormons don't believe in the Triune:  they hold that the
Father, the Son, and the Spirit are separate entities.  The doctrine of the
Trinity has been essential to the faith for as long as a codified
definition of 'Christian' has existed.

There have indeed been wars fought to determine aspects of Christian
doctrine.  But they've been about interpretations and practices not already
covered in the Nicene Creed - that's why the fights are considered to have
taken place within the faith, instead of between different religions.  See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iconoclasm for a classic example.

This actually matters a great deal within the branches of Christianity
because certain essential doctrinal requirements must be met before a
baptism can be recognized as valid.  Neither the Protestants, Catholics,
nor Orthodox recognize Mormon baptism.

You might as well ask why the category of 'triangle' excludes four-sided
forms.  It's because that's what the term is defined as.  You might argue
that there are objective logical reasons to exclude rhombuses from the
category of three-sided things, while there are only subjective ones when
it comes to religion and terminology, but history and shared origins have
their place.  Part of respect for truth and reason is being willing to
acknowledge that even the most sincere people are sometimes simply wrong,
and rejecting their claims, regardless of how this makes them (or you) feel.

Matt G.


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