[LMB] OT: Tea Party - books discussed - Murderbot
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Mon Sep 13 00:48:50 BST 2021
It seems after the Zoom Vorkosigan tea parties I find myself on my
libraries website searching for those books we discuss.
On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 10:36 AM <alayne at twobikes.ottawa.on.ca> wrote:
> I love all of Martha Wells' Ile-Rien books. I started with The Death of
> the Necromancer, and then discovered the others: The Element of Fire and
> The Fall of Ile-Rien trilogy. They're particularly good as audiobooks,
> too, which is a sign of good writing.
> (I haven't been able to get the short story anthology yet because it's
> DRMed eBook only.)
> You can see the list at http://marthawells.com/ilerien.htm
> Re Murderbot: Howard, the whole point of that series is how Murderbot is
> protective, almost parental, of humans - and is not big on killing people.
> The series is about Murderbot's learning to trust and be loved and to be
> treated as a person. I'd try the second book in the series, _Artificial
> Condition_, in which you'll meet the inimitable ART.
> Besides _Network Effect_, Wells also won a Hugo Award for Best Novella for
> _All Systems Red_ and _Artificial Condition_.
> On Sun, 12 Sep 2021, Ruchira Mathur wrote:
> > I actually loved the Cloud Roads by Martha Wells. It's one of my favorite
> > series ever, favorite reread, and the world is very different from any
> > other. It's probably some of the most creative world building I've ever
> > seen.
> > But before that, she also wrote City of Bones and there is a series
> > ill-rein, something like that. There is magic, deadly peril, air ships
> > a playright.
> > On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 12:01 AM Elizabeth Holden <alzurite at gmail.com>
> >> On Sep 11, 2021, at 9:10 PM, brazee <howard at brazee.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I read “All Systems Red” and had no desire to read another. But I
> >> > see "Network Effect" won a Hugo.
> >> I loved "All Systems Red" and couldn't stop reading till I got to the
> >> > Maybe it is just him calling himself a Murderbot that turned me off.
> >> This isn't really a spoiler - it's established near the beginning that
> >> there has been erasure of Murderbot's memory of events, and Murderbot
> >> said to have killed people. Hence using the self-designation
> >> possibly in a sense of misguided guilt, possibly in ironic protest.
> >> Murderbot is very protective of people, as we see early on and
> >> the series.
> >> > But
> >> > I really don’t remember the plot all that well.
> >> I remember the plot and theme of the series as a whole, but since I read
> >> them one after another, I don't recall where each one began and ended.
> >> Katherine said:
> >> > I liked other Martha Wells books,
> >> I wanted to like them, but really didn't much like "the Cloud Roads".
> >> you suggest a better starting place? Something without the Raksura?
> >> > But Murderbot itself (never referred to as “he” or “she” — easier than
> >> you might think, since it > is the narrator) turns out to be so _kind_.
> >> Well, maybe kind is the wrong word.
> >> Thoughtful? Compassionate? I used "protective" above - it's sort of a
> >> of these things.
> >> > It is wrestling with what being human means, even though it denies
> >> human.
> >> Such wonderful books, in my opinion.
> >> Katherine
> >> namaste,
> >> Elizabeth
> >> Elizabeth Holden <azurite at azurite.ca>
> Alayne McGregor
> alayne at twobikes.ottawa.on.ca
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