[LMB] Fwd: OT: Language changes

Ruchira Mathur wetair at gmail.com
Sat Sep 18 15:41:44 BST 2021


I feel like the meaning of socialism is changing though. I don't think it
means what I was taught in school anymore.


On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 10:27 AM Markus Baur via Lois-Bujold <
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>
> Am 18.09.2021 um 16:04 schrieb Elizabeth Holden:
> > Markus said:
> >
> >> the meaning in public usage has changed ... as has, for example the
> > menaing of the term nazi - > the use of both terms have
> >> been broadend to the point of them becoming menaigless
> >
> > So you have said, and repeated, but I see no reflection of this in real
> > life. Nazi means what it always did.
>
> you see it a lot in us media - especially in the form of comparisons
> "like the nazis" - especially without explaining WHY and WHAT - just the
> comparison alone is usually used as sufficient damnation.
>
> i will search if i can find the article again where that comparison was
> used (twice, if memory serves) in regards to the texan abortion law
> (which, for the record, i think is very bad on a ethical, legal,
> political and practical base - and its plain stupid .. but to compare
> that illbegotten law to things the nazis did does "water down" their
> actions)
>
> i am seeing that even here in austria and germany .. where people get
> the definition and politics of real nazism drilled into their head from
> the fourth grade onwards and where the use of such comparison in public
> without a VERY good reason usually gets dumped on within minutes
> (becasue down-watering the nazis is very frowned upon !"over here"
>
>   It may be different where you are, but
> > the meanings of words like Nazi, socialism, fascism, racism, etc., are
> > still perfectly clear iand unchanged n the vernacular I hear around me.
>
> may i ask where you live? and in which social circles you generally
> operate?
>
> > Only where I live, "socialism" isn't a bad thing at all. Just a thing.
>
> i have lost count on how many things i had to explain to people online
> (mostly, but not all, coming from the continent of northern america)
> that not all things containing the word root social are equal
>
> social market economy |= social democracy |= socialized health system |=
> socialism |= communism |= marxism-leninism |= marxism-stalinism (and i
> am not going into the OTHEr heretic subsects of that)
>
> servus
>
> markus
>
> > namaste,
> > Elizabeth
> >
> > Elizabeth Holden <azurite at azurite.ca>
> >
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