[LMB] OT: People Changing Political Words
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Sat Sep 18 17:24:31 BST 2021
On 18/09/2021 16:03, David McMillan wrote:
> On 9/18/2021 9:15 AM, Peter Hews via Lois-Bujold wrote:
>> He may have been influenced by the well known meme claiming that
>> since the full name of the Nazi Party was "National Socialists,"
>> Hitler was obviously a communist, therefore all communists are Nazis :-}
> Unless I'm misremembering, NS /did/ in fact begin as a branch of
> the international socialist movement. One that substituted
> nationalism for "class struggle," hence the name.
You *are* misremembering. Even before Hitler joined it, the NSDAP was
not in any way, shape or form a branch of the international socialist
movement. The point of it's name was the idea that workers were "better
off" working for the glory of the nation instead of following socialists
and striking for better wages.
> IIRC, it was started (in Italy?) by subset of the Marxist movement
> that was frustrated that the "glorious global revolution" just wasn't
Nope, not a subset of the Marxist movement. Mussolini was kicked out of
the Italian socialist party for advocating war, yes. But he wasn't
advocating war for the glorious global revolution, just for gaining more
territory for Italy. Specifically, the eastern coast of the Adriatic,
which was at the time under Austria-Hungary.
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