[LMB] OT: Gender Roles

Eric Oppen ravenclaweric at gmail.com
Tue Sep 28 04:51:52 BST 2021


I never did understand why doctors and nurses were given Army officer
ranks.  Things like that gave people like Frank Burns the delusion that
they were real live soldiers.  A lot of the trouble Burns got into was when
he was trying to play soldier.

On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 10:40 PM WILLIAM A WENRICH <wawenri at msn.com> wrote:

> I remember a MASH episode in which a male surgical nurse was drafted and
> spent his tour as an orderly. Female nurses were all officers.
> This was an episode. The army didn’t have male nurse officers until 1955.
>
> William A Wenrich
>
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> When I was one, my title was "orderly," and they were damned glad to have
> me.   When you've got a six foot plus ex-farmer with Alzheimer's to deal
> with,  male muscle is very welcome, believe me!
>
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021, 12:20 PM Sylvia McIvers <sylviamcivers at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 1:07 PM Jean Lamb <tlambs1138 at charter.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I used to be a nurse's aide. I am not a large person, and yet was
> > required
> > > to lift and turn people almost double my size.
> > >
> > > But that's women's work!
> > >
> > > Right?
> > >
> >
> > Heh. My sis tops out at just over 5 feet, and she has bird bones. Tiny.
> > Also, a labor-and-delivery nurse.
> >
> > She can manhandle a fat woman pregnant with twins, who has had the good
> > drugs and can't feel anything from the waist down.
> > Also, she can do it in full hazard gear, because the woman either had
> > double pneumonia or Covid, and who wants to take chances?
> >
> > The "holy crap that woman weighed a ton" has to wait until she is home,
> > because apparently nurses can't cuss out their patients, it's
> > unprofessional.
> > Sylvia
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