Character renderings #1 (was: Re: [LMB] Pronunciations)
Mark A. Mandel
thnidu at yahoo.com
Sun Jun 4 04:49:52 BST 2006
NOTE: Because the content of this message may affect its appearance, I'm
going to post it twice. This version (#1) is unmodified; version 2 will
have all non-ASCII characters removed. I'm also ccing both directly to
Pete. -- m a m
--- "Peter H. Granzeau" <pgranzeau at cox.net> wrote:
> At 11:57 PM 5/21/2006, Kalina Varbanova wrote:
> >On 5/22/06, Mark A. Mandel <thnidu at yahoo.com>
> >wrote: > > Umm. First. Sorry, Kalina, but there
> >are not more vowels in "AIR-al" than > in
> >"barrel". More vowel LETTERS, but not more
> >vowels. Kind of the way > "ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½"/"dacha" has
> >four letters in Russian and five in English to
> >represent > the same pronunciation. Hm. I admit
> >it may be my ignorance - I just hadn't heard
> >anybody using an "i" sound before the "r" in
> >Barrel, nor an "a" sound after the "r". Which
> >isn't saying much - I haven't lived all _that_
> >long in an English-speaking country, and I am
> >well aware I have heard but a small fraction of
> >- yes, I know, dialects. Thanks :) Kalina -- You
> >have two hands. One to help yourself and one to help others.
> For some reason, your post came through exactly
> as quoted above. You might want to try another
> Mail reader or something. And stop using HTML, *please*.
I am using Yahoo Mail's web interface directly-- no mail reader involved.
I am not writing in HTML at all, just typing into the window, or dictating
(with Dragon NaturallySpeaking) into a simple text processor (WordPad),
without formatting, and copy-and-pasting into the window.
In the above post I used the Windows Character Map to find and paste in
three Cyrillic characters, equivalent to d, a (twice), and ch. That must
be what caused something in the chain to act funny.
But what's even stranger is that
1. when I read your post, I saw those four characters exactly as I had
2. but when I clicked REPLY to start this reply, they materialized as a
string of four "unknown character" symbols, a black diamond with a white
question mark inside...
3. and when I went back one screen, copied the correctly-rendered line
out of your post (item 1 in this list), and pasted it in here, it still
looked, and looks, as I typed it, just prefixed with the quoting ">":
>vowels. Kind of the way > "Ð´Ð°ÑÐ°"/"dacha" has
It may still be trash to you...
One more relevant point: I've set my browser (Firefox)'s setting for
View:Character Encoding to "Unicode (UTF-8)". It's what I need most of the
time, and it is our standard, quite reasonably for an organization that
works with a great many different languages and scripts (currently I'm
working with Bengali).
-- Mark Mandel
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