[LMB] Where is Cazaril, and what happened to it?

beatrice_otter at haugensgalleri.com beatrice_otter at haugensgalleri.com
Wed May 23 20:40:10 BST 2012


"Adam Ek" <adamek at gmail.com> wrote:
> IMHO, the "dy Cazaril" part of his name came from the castle his family
> once held. Could the Castillar title be held by anyone who has been
> entrusted with a castle? He did command Gotorget after all.

There is a rather large difference, socially and militarily, between an
officer who commands someone else's castle during a particular war or for
a specific periot, and someone who permanently rules that castle in war
and peace and handles not only the military defense but also governs the
land it controls.  Both can be said to rule castles, but the second type
of "castle ruler" hires the first.  In real-life medieval times, the first
type got military titles (Knight, Captain, Commander, etc.) and the second
type got social titles (Count, Duke, Lord, Baron, etc., depending on how
much land their castle(s) controlled and who granted them the lands and
the title).  THere was some overlap; people could be both types,
particularly a second or third son who went off adventuring to make his
fortune.  The military officers who were given commands (and castles) in
battle tended to be from the same rank or just below it, after all.  But
there were a lot of landless men of good families (younger sons, family
fallen on hard times, etc) who tried to make a name and fortune for
themselves through the military.  They ran in the same circles as the
landed gentry/lords, and could aspire to join that rank if they were lucky
and good at their job; but there was still a distinction made, sometimes
sharply.

Cazaril's father was the second type, who ruled socially and militarily
both; Cazaril is the first, who rules only as others give him military
command to do so, as his father lost his land.  Technically, as he tells
the Provincara at the beginning of CoC, now that he no longer holds the
Cazaril lands he should no longer be called Castilar dy Cazaril.  But as
the Provincara points out, in that kind of a society with a much less
solid framework of law and literal interpretation thereof, titles and
precedence and inheritance have more to do in some cases with strength and
force of will/arms than they do with what should technically happen.  Laws
and customs follow precedent, not the other way around.  Basically, if he
is emphatic enough about claiming it (and respected by enough important
people), he gets to keep the title even if it is empty now.  If he has
enough enemies, or he doesn't make a point of claiming the title, or
someone gets fussy about protocol (offended by his social climbing), he
doesn't get to keep it.

Beatrice Otter



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