[LMB] OT: Historical observations

Caroline Tabach ctabach at gmail.com
Mon Jun 12 12:47:30 BST 2017

Did you check out Queen Ann?

Caroline Tabach
ctabach at gmail.com

בתאריך 12 ביונ' 2017 2:41 PM,‏ "Gwynne Powell" <gwynnepowell at hotmail.com>

> I just finished 'Royal Renegades' by Linda Porter, it follows the children
> of
> Charles I. The writing is a little bumbling at times, but it's still a
> fascinating
> look at people who usually rate only a sentence or two in  books about all
> the important events. And it's a period of English history that I hadn't
> looked
> at very closely, so it was fascinating to see what happened to them all.
> One thing that I've noticed before is the heartbreakingly high death rate.
> If
> you look at most European royal families from medieval times on up, either
> there's no children, or a long list of miscarriages, still births, and
> deaths within
> the first few years. Just looking at the Stuarts, hardly any of them made
> old
> bones. Even the ones who got past those early years tended to fall off the
> perch in their twenties. I know that in the later centuries many royals
> were
> inbred to an astonishing degree, but even those who married out seemed to
> struggle to get a few offspring to adulthood.
> And that's the royals, living well, with better food and conditions than
> most
> of the peasants. How did anyone survive? The usual figure is that 50% of
> children made it past five, but the numbers seem to be far worse than that.
> My dad did a lot of family (and other) history research, going back for
> centuries, and covering people living in some pretty isolated and tough
> conditions. And they had a far better breeding rate, despite everything.
> Maybe it's just that peasants are tougher than the feeble aristos?
> Gwynne
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