[LMB] Barrayaran badges of rank

WILLIAM A WENRICH wawenri at msn.com
Sat Jan 27 19:16:46 GMT 2018

For most of history, there were far fewer ranks than now. 

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> On Jan 27, 2018, at 9:34 AM, M R Dolbear fm <little.egret at dolbear.fastmail.fm> wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2018, at 13:10, Karen Hunt wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 8:01 AM, Karen Hunt <huntkc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Sharon Micenko <wembleyware at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Good evening everyone,
>>>> I’ve been immersed in the Vorkosigan saga for some time and I’m trying to
>>>> work out the Imperial service ranks. I get it that it’s a mixed service and
>>>> if you get ship duty naval ranks are used but ground forces use army ranks.
>>>> it’s the colours that are puzzling me. So, it’s pale blue for Ensigns, red
>>>> for lieutenants, blue for captains (is that just ground forces?) and yellow
>>>> for admirals. There do seem to be some missing, eg Lieutenant commanders,
>>>> commanders, majors and colonels. Anyone have a fuller list than me? Thanks
>>>> for any comments.
>>>> Oh, and I’m guessing that cadets would be white like they are everywhere
>>>> else.
>>> Yes cadets are white cloth (we see that in The Mountains of Mourning, when
>>> Miles is setting up his memorial offering at Piotr's grave).
>>> About 1/4 of the way down a very long article, you can find a table of the
>>> rank markings that have been seen in the Saga:
>>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fvorkosigan.wikia.com%2Fwiki%2FBarrayaran_Imperial_Service&data=02%7C01%7C%7C11b68abc25ce4dc7484508d565a3e44b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636526676930814907&sdata=VUtXr%2BARfMTY9slNO%2F4zFQwbaekvJbqNAom6bXPp3M0%3D&reserved=0 under Ranks.
>>> And indeed it is incomplete. Looks like you have all the tabs seen besides
>>> cadet, though.
>> Coming in with a second post. If you've been doing researchy reading, as it
>> sounds, perhaps you'd like to look over some relevant articles in the wikia
>> and add tweaks? I've put together a pretty full site (there are still holes
>> for content from Gentleman Jole. I'm slow at filling them in because I'm
>> only slowly regaining energy after a very difficult several years of time.)
> Look at the archives, eg
> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.herald.co.uk%2Fpipermail%2Flois-bujold%2F2006-January.txt&data=02%7C01%7C%7C11b68abc25ce4dc7484508d565a3e44b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636526676930814907&sdata=V5mOKaPSHrpoOczmf7XoFh8diEWiL49vyCGbb7N1Nwg%3D&reserved=0
> and search (Ctrl F) for commodore
>>> Ensign, Lieutenant, {Commander} Captain, Commodore, Rear
>>> Admiral, Vice Admiral.
>> Excluding SoH and Barrayar, ie in the books that cover Miles's service in
>> the integrated service, there is texev only for {as above}
> The General Vorkraft was pre integrated service. The new era & "new
> regulations" probably removed some officer ranks.
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