[LMB] Dark Brittanic Mills

Richard G. Molpus rgmolpus at flash.net
Mon Jul 22 22:13:55 BST 2019

That this was being said while the Irish Landowners were dispossessing farmers, exporting the wheat crop overseas to get a higher price: and the Scottish Lairds were finishing the Highland Clearances... gets the mind spinning.
Factory work was steady, paid in coin, and led to a better life for th he second and third generations. The children had a chance of being educated, so they could better themselves.
City air was free air - freedom from villianage and serfdom.

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  On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 4:03 PM, Douglas Weinfield<douglasw at his.com> wrote:   The argument, as I know it, is not that the country was better than the city.

Rather, the argument is that the greed of the mill owners deprived the workers of a still better life than the one they had in the cities.

It's an argument against greed, not in favor of pastorality.

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The thing was, the "dark satanic mills" in Victorian England WERE
progress!  Prior to the Industrial Revolution, the surplus rural population
had only a few options, and none of them were good.  After the factories
were there, they could go and work in them.

Also, the Industrial Revolution made a lot of things more accessible to the
poor, like making clothes cheaper.

Most of the sneering at factories was by people who were too rich to have
any idea of what life was like for the real poor.  They would rhapsodize
about how much better life was in the country.  Which it was, _if you owned
land!_  Tenants, OTOH, were at the mercy of their landlords, and life in
those quaint, picturesque country cottages was often pretty hellish.
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