[LMB] What makes a character irredeemable?

Eric Oppen ravenclaweric at gmail.com
Tue Jul 30 00:20:03 BST 2019

*mega-sigh*  Let's try doing this again, and not on my stupid phone.  I'm
not nearly as convinced as others seem to be that touch-screens are the hot

Every time we see Dondo in life, he's behaving like a giant horse's ass,
and his behavior upon his engagement and after would put any sane woman off
him for life.  (That said, I wonder how Iselle would have reacted had Dondo
reacted to the news of their impending marriage with utter weary
resignation?  "Ah, well, if I've got to, I've got to.  Marriage, like
death, is a debt we owe to nature, they say.  *long, weary sigh*  I suppose
things could *conceivably *be worse.")

Horseriver, OTOH, strikes me as a terribly tragic figure.

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 5:28 PM Eric Oppen <ravenclaweric at gmail.com> wrote:

> Every time we see Dondo in action, he's a gigantic horse's rear.  Horse
> river, on the other hand, is a l
> On Monday, July 29, 2019, Matthew George <matt.msg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I agree that Dondo's self-will would have prevented his being taken up
>> even
>> if a god had been willing, much like Joen, whom the Bastard does offer
>> mercy to.
>> But, here's the thing - as readers, we're primed to view both those
>> destructions as suitable and proper.  The sundering and destruction of
>> Horseriver is clearly meant to be perceived as a tragedy, although he
>> probably did more damage than either Dondo or Joen.
>> So my question is:  how does LB cause us to view Dondo's destruction as
>> just and right?  Induce us to not shed tears at his destruction.  Because
>> it seems clear that's the authorial intent, and one that is very
>> successful.
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