[LMB] [OT] Atlantic crossings, was Centrifugal gravity, was Re: Cordelia's College sport

markus baur baur at chello.at
Wed Jun 23 09:41:09 BST 2021

and the romans DID go to the canary islands - which was the jump off 
point for columbus to cross the atlantic



On 23.06.2021 08:41, Raymond Collins wrote:
> The Roman's had pretty good ships but for the most part they were designed
> for the Mediterranean sea. But theoretically they could have crossed the
> Atlantic if they got lucky weather wise. And of course there were the
> natives who may or may not have been  all that friendly. There may have
> been contact but I doubts it was two way. Of course DNA evidence has
> surprised us on the west coast of South America and on some Polynesian
> islands.
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 12:11 AM B. Ross Ashley <brashley46 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 11:51:31 +0200, markus baur <baur at chello.at> wrote,
>> inter alia:
>>> On 22.06.2021 02:32, Matthew George wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 3:44 AM Matija Grabnar via Lois-Bujold <
>>>> lois-bujold at lists.herald.co.uk> wrote:
>> [snip]
>>>> The Romans didn't have the tech to cross the Atlantic, and if they'd
>>>> somehow managed it,
>>> that is very much debateable. Thor Heyerdahl showed that pre-roman Egypt
>>> would have had the necessary tech for a one way crossing of the atlantic
>>>> they would have been a horror.
>>> yes - mostly for the illnesses they would have brought with them ..
>>> otoh they most likely would not have been able to exploit the "window of
>>> opportunity" opened by these illnesses
>> We know that medieval Norsemen from Iceland managed it; the lack in
>> their case was sufficient political organisation to reinforce the few
>> settlements - maybe only one - in Newfoundland. Their knorrs were better
>> adapted to the North Atlantic than Roman cargo ships would have been.
>> But they were weeks of sea time away from Greenland, more weeks away
>> from Iceland, and even more weeks away from their old homeland in Norway
>> which was being ravaged by internecine war off and on for at least a
>> century.
>> I can imagine a cohort of legionary troops in 10 or 15 knerrir, but the
>> chances of all of them making the voyage intact are next to nil.
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